interesting how people get side tracked by 'the recent thing'. I kinda like Trump's Wuflu. For me, the whole thing was a kind of flu that obviously people had messed with. Very few people realize that in the year of the scam, there was barely any flu activity - doctors in CA retested people who were diagnosed with wuflu, and found out they had had regular flu strains. This whole thing was a scamdemic indeed. A theatre play to mask what the governments are doing, and those that direct the governments. The uppeties behind the scene.
I can remember early in 2020, actually "hoping" for the test to come out. I reasoned that once the test came out, many people would see that the "novel dangerous virus" was really a rebranded flu that most people already had and was also mild.
Disease and death are common in any society, but what 2020 proved was that you could take something that already exists, hype it up, and have the world believe that what was once common is now novel and deadly. They also knew that the very tools that could be used to calm the masses could also, with the right propaganda, scare them as well.
In many ways, the covid experience is much like that of the USS Iowa’s turret explosion. What was said on last night’s nightly news shows erased all that was discussed at work the day before, as if there was no memory of it in all but a few.
Since covid, there are no other diseases, no other possible cause for the common symptoms assigned to covid. The facts you cite, 70% of upper respiratory infection are of unknown cause, that many many many things were known to cause “brain fog” (you forgot my three favorites, caffeine deficiency, caffeine overdose and hangovers) and all other symptoms of long covid. Yet, few recall any of this, for being told other causes apparently erases what they once knew. Though, it could be that I give them too much credit by assuming they knew this at one time. Someone told me that covid was the first pandemic of their lives. To their credit, once I pointed out a few they did state that they were unaware of these, but they still refused to reconsider their stance based upon the false belief that covid was the first pandemic of their life time.
I know exactly how they feel those that will not reconsider their stance, I feel the pull of it as well. The inclination when faced with more fear and panic narratives is to dig my heels in and push back hard. And at times I do not want to read the evidence they posted. A superstitious part of my mind thinks that this will be the one study that proves the truth...that Covid was a "novel deadly virus" and that masks do work. It's an irrational thought because if it could be proven, it would be proven by now.
Back in 2020, I was afraid of reading studies and remember getting a huge "meta study" on masking by someone on facebook who thought they had given me th tablets of the ten commandments of masking. It had like 52 studies in it, and when I went through it, I thought to myself "Surely this will be where I eat crow on masking."
Except it didn't. First, some of the studies were merely revamps of others studies. So it wasn't 52 individual studies at all, but rather some were an aggregate of the other studies presented. Sorry, but no. If the Cochrane report did that, you can be sure that the media and scientific consensus would have used that bit of ammunition to destroy it. No Cochrane was pretty specific about the studies it used concerning non pharmaceutical interventions used to prevent transmission of viruses.
Second, a lot of studies involving mannequins, lasers, and alleged "particle volume." You can't "simulate" the human respiratory system. I guess certain studies believe they can and that "viral load" means something. But how do they explain people who lived isolated from the rest of the world who come down with a disease, and those that are exposed to sick people and they do not get infected?
Despite the prevailing opinion concerning asymptomatic transmission, I maintain, using their rules of airborne presence of a virus long after the person who spread it has left the room, that there has not been a true study used to determine if symptomatic infection could not have occurred. Wow that was a long sentence.
LEt me see if I can condense it. Using their rules on airborne infection, how can they prove there wasn't someone symptomatic over the course of a two-day period who could not have spread it?
And of course, a variety of confounders, and issues were never addressed. Confounders like most people prone to masking are also less prone to social interaction. Or that those who stress out over COVID are probably more likely to exhibit physiological symptoms of some sort. Those of us who lived through 2020 should realize that we should never underestimate the effects of stress on our lives.
I would often get arguments that because some studies were more recent than others, that upped their viability. This isn't true either.
The 52 study meta study turned out to not be so convincing. But as you and I know, most people won't go through it. They will simply think "well. if there are that many studies, it must be true masks work."
interesting how people get side tracked by 'the recent thing'. I kinda like Trump's Wuflu. For me, the whole thing was a kind of flu that obviously people had messed with. Very few people realize that in the year of the scam, there was barely any flu activity - doctors in CA retested people who were diagnosed with wuflu, and found out they had had regular flu strains. This whole thing was a scamdemic indeed. A theatre play to mask what the governments are doing, and those that direct the governments. The uppeties behind the scene.
And many of us fell right into it.
I can remember early in 2020, actually "hoping" for the test to come out. I reasoned that once the test came out, many people would see that the "novel dangerous virus" was really a rebranded flu that most people already had and was also mild.
Disease and death are common in any society, but what 2020 proved was that you could take something that already exists, hype it up, and have the world believe that what was once common is now novel and deadly. They also knew that the very tools that could be used to calm the masses could also, with the right propaganda, scare them as well.
In many ways, the covid experience is much like that of the USS Iowa’s turret explosion. What was said on last night’s nightly news shows erased all that was discussed at work the day before, as if there was no memory of it in all but a few.
Since covid, there are no other diseases, no other possible cause for the common symptoms assigned to covid. The facts you cite, 70% of upper respiratory infection are of unknown cause, that many many many things were known to cause “brain fog” (you forgot my three favorites, caffeine deficiency, caffeine overdose and hangovers) and all other symptoms of long covid. Yet, few recall any of this, for being told other causes apparently erases what they once knew. Though, it could be that I give them too much credit by assuming they knew this at one time. Someone told me that covid was the first pandemic of their lives. To their credit, once I pointed out a few they did state that they were unaware of these, but they still refused to reconsider their stance based upon the false belief that covid was the first pandemic of their life time.
I know exactly how they feel those that will not reconsider their stance, I feel the pull of it as well. The inclination when faced with more fear and panic narratives is to dig my heels in and push back hard. And at times I do not want to read the evidence they posted. A superstitious part of my mind thinks that this will be the one study that proves the truth...that Covid was a "novel deadly virus" and that masks do work. It's an irrational thought because if it could be proven, it would be proven by now.
Back in 2020, I was afraid of reading studies and remember getting a huge "meta study" on masking by someone on facebook who thought they had given me th tablets of the ten commandments of masking. It had like 52 studies in it, and when I went through it, I thought to myself "Surely this will be where I eat crow on masking."
Except it didn't. First, some of the studies were merely revamps of others studies. So it wasn't 52 individual studies at all, but rather some were an aggregate of the other studies presented. Sorry, but no. If the Cochrane report did that, you can be sure that the media and scientific consensus would have used that bit of ammunition to destroy it. No Cochrane was pretty specific about the studies it used concerning non pharmaceutical interventions used to prevent transmission of viruses.
Second, a lot of studies involving mannequins, lasers, and alleged "particle volume." You can't "simulate" the human respiratory system. I guess certain studies believe they can and that "viral load" means something. But how do they explain people who lived isolated from the rest of the world who come down with a disease, and those that are exposed to sick people and they do not get infected?
Despite the prevailing opinion concerning asymptomatic transmission, I maintain, using their rules of airborne presence of a virus long after the person who spread it has left the room, that there has not been a true study used to determine if symptomatic infection could not have occurred. Wow that was a long sentence.
LEt me see if I can condense it. Using their rules on airborne infection, how can they prove there wasn't someone symptomatic over the course of a two-day period who could not have spread it?
And of course, a variety of confounders, and issues were never addressed. Confounders like most people prone to masking are also less prone to social interaction. Or that those who stress out over COVID are probably more likely to exhibit physiological symptoms of some sort. Those of us who lived through 2020 should realize that we should never underestimate the effects of stress on our lives.
I would often get arguments that because some studies were more recent than others, that upped their viability. This isn't true either.
The 52 study meta study turned out to not be so convincing. But as you and I know, most people won't go through it. They will simply think "well. if there are that many studies, it must be true masks work."